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#301 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
Я воспринимаю эту песню очень просто и не ищу в ней глубоких подтекстов. Символ мальчика, которого "соблазнил" и сделал себе подобным призрак, олицетворяет неверные страшные решения, которые может принять человек, у которого нет близких, которому никто не подаст руку помощи и не посоветует, не прислушается к нему. Помните фразу из песни "невысказанная боль"? Вот о чем песня лично для меня. И уж конечно это песня не о ком-то конкретном, как многие думали. Совпадение двух мертвых мальчиков мне ни о чем не говорит.
#302 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
Don`t listen to the siren писал(а):
"habilis"

Вай, дико извиняюсь, спасибо за уточнение, проглядел)))


Don`t listen to the siren писал(а):
Ну правда, дико банально...


Ну, если бы хор полностью процитировал Терентиуса, было б интереснее: небольшая выдержка из его произведения и песня превратилась бы в шедевр, это факт Very Happy

Я тут исхожу именно из потенциала данного приёма. Не будь его и "BatG" потеряет в кульминационном моменте, а так, в контексте альбома латынь смотрится *очень оригинально, а не банально Smile
)))
PS: Что-то туплю сегодня, ошибка на ошибке)))
Dendravenn писал(а):


Как вам всем известно, в "Boy and the Ghost" есть момент, когда хор поёт:
"De-spero, solitas, debilis, desolo.
De-spero, solitas, debilis, desolo!"
Восклицательный знак - не опечатка: здесь хор действительно повышает интонацию.
Это слова на латинском языке и на них ложится ключевая смысловая и кульминационная нагрузка всей композиции.
"De-spero" означает: "Потерять надежду".
Дух отчаяния...
"Solitas" - одиночество.
Без надежды, одинокий...
"Debilis" (образовано от "de" и "habilis") - употреблено в качестве синонима вместо "umbra" - "призрачный", но имеет и значение "немощный".
Потерявший надежду одинок и немощен.
"Desolo" значит "покидать". Смысл станет яснее, если продолжить слово: "Exsillio desolatus - desolatus virorum" ("обрёкший себя на одиночество - обезлюдевший").
Одинокий призрак без надежд, он покидает этот мир...

Но...
Он лишен надежды, потому что призрак?
Или он стал призраком, потому что при жизни обрёк себя на одиночество и отчаялся?
На эти вопросы каждый ответит по-своему...

"umbra", вообще, используется в значении "тень" (например: "umbra silvestris"), так что можно по-разному интерпретировать), а "desolo" косвенно представить как "изгнанный в небытие".


***Эмм, я так понимаю, что в "Die Alive" в кульминации хор тоже должен петь что-то на латыни по сюжету? Похоже на то, что авторы не нашли (или не приняли)) "некрономиконов-мортисов". А может, авторы песни не любят Юлиуса Валериуса, кто-нибудь так же, как я, считает?))))) ***

*****Может, когда Тарья начнёт полноценно сочинять тексты для своих песен, капнёт поглубже и докопается до Ауктореса и исполнится моя мечта)))*****
#303 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
Дабы наши уважаемые пользователи не ломали себе глаза, всматриваясь в замусоленный листочек, официальный текст If You Believe:

Drifting words without meaning
Twisting through the dark concealing
Search again your reflection lives within
Shades of the labyrinth
The path lies ahead

If you believe
Truth her name is honesty
Let her shine through your darkest temptation
Hidden deep
In sincerity
With your painted smile
So revealing
Turmished yet there's no fear in me
Feeding the flower that dies
It's a ray of light

Roaming colors they were sleeping
Senses they are never ending
Find again the beauty in the suffering

Shades of the labyrinth
The path lies ahead

Мне нравится вроде бы, довольно красиво. Песни я, к своему стыду, всё ещё не слышала, надо сегодня это исправить)).

Tarja писал(а):
It's a ray of light

это ещё что мне за Мадонна такая в Питере? Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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#304 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
Пользователь Guilherme7530 написал то, что он разобрал в Montanas de Silencio:


Цитата:
"Vuela tan alto como puedas
Nadie debajo
Nadie esta detrás
Siempre comienza cuando está sola
Amor, temor, siente y encuentra en la soledad
Tuya y nadie más"


Вот что мне выдало заклинание Промтусепра, и я надеюсь, если есть испаноговорящие на форуме, они поправят по возможности:

Цитата:
"Он летает так высоко, как только может
Никого внизу
Никого нет позади
Всегда он начинает <летать?>, когда он одинок
Любовь, страх... Он чувствует и находит в одиночестве.
Твой и больше ничей"

Rolleyes#2 Surprised *плакает*
#305 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
DaedRa писал(а):

Turmished yet there's no fear in me

Turmished? не нашла в словаре ничего похожего... м.б. Tarnished?

Кто-нибудь пытался разобрать Rivers of Lust?

Violent hands
Come at midnight
Hold me down
I can't make a sound

In the [arms]
Still on […]
Crave a child
….. wild

Stranger
Danger
[Release fear]

Mercy's hiding
[And let me go/know?]
[…….]
Mercy's watching
Watching me drowning
In rivers of lust


Morning sun
Break a shelter
Turn back time
Wash away my [crying, crime]

[….]
Slayer
[Release fear]

Mercy's hiding...
#306 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
что расслышали наши иностранные друзья

Violent hands
Come, let me go,
Hold me down
I can't make a sound

In the ?
Still unwanted
Crave the child
Be forever wild

Stranger, danger,
Release me
Cease this hiding
Let me go, hurts to know
Cease this touching,
Watching me drown
In rivers of lust

Morning sun
Break the shelter
Turn back time
Wash away my pride

Betrayer, slayer,
Release me
Cease this hiding
Let me go, hurts to know
Cease this touching
Watching me drown
In rivers of lust
#307 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
Скомпоновал тамошние варианты и подредактировал:
Цитата:
Violent hands
Come at midnight
Hold me down
I can't make a sound

In their arms
Still unwanted
Crave the child
Be forever wild

Stranger, danger
Release me

Mercy's hiding
Let me go, hurts to know
Mercy's watching
Watching me drown in
In rivers of lust

Morning sun
Break the shelter
Turn back time
Wash away my pride

Betrayer, slayer
Release me

Mercy's hiding
Let me go, hurts to know
Mercy's watching
Watching me drown in
In rivers of lust

Oh...

Mercy's hiding
Let me go, hurts to know
Mercy's watching
Watching me drown in

Mercy's hiding
Let me go, hurts to know
Mercy's watching
Watching me drown in
In rivers of lust

Drown that moon
Catch and steal the stars

Собственно, никаких расхождений не слышится Smile
Если только Watching me drown in In rivers of lust возможен инфинитив Confused
#308 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
текстоуслышки Cool спасибо ребяткам с офы Smile

In For A Kill

Where do you go from here
I’m struggling under
How can the people fear
But you are the hunter
To stand a dream to die for
A wish you keep it out of the night

Nothing can shine
Live in the dark
Open their eyes
Under the water
There is no halo only the hunger
You’re in for a kill!

Even the twisted minds
Sweating and shiver.
How can you be so blind?
Fearing the mirror

Nothing can shine
Live in the dark
Far from their eyes
Under the water
There is no halo only the hunger
You’re in for a kill!

Is that a grand illusion,
A trick you keep it out of the light

Nothing can shine
Live in the dark
Open their eyes
Under the water.
There is no halo
Only the hunger
You’re in for a kill!
Under the water.
There is no halo
Only the hunger
You’re in for a kill!

"The Archive of Lost Dreams":

Far from the right to reach
Beneath the way of cist
Countless stories
Were left to rest in peace

Tired and cold
The grave uncared
Once a haven filled with hope
The archive of lost dreams

Listen, our inner fears
For the ocean to stall
Waiting, it takes them all
Away from the shore

Deepest feelings
From millions of souls
Longing for our wishes
To find the way back home

Now we find
The last one in the unknown
The keeper of a million dreams

Promises
Not unknown, were left behind
She blesses them with her kiss

See
Hear
And feel
The miracle of light
Believe the signs
And trust you
Stay alive
Listen to find
The miracle of life

Be still our island
Now the scent is lost forever

Now we come
Our heart, soul
The keeper of our soul
#309 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
оф текст

Phantom voices with no words to follow
At the mercy of the cold and hollow
I withdrew into my sanctuary of silence
My defence
In this moment I am just becoming
Liberated from my cell of nothing
No sensation there was only breathing
Overcome oblivion
Falling Awake
From a walking sleep
And all that remains
Is the dying memory
And now I can dive for
these dreams I make
Like I am Falling
I am falling awake
Waves of melodies once forgotten
like a symphony across the ocean
Never knew that they could hear my calling
deep within
crashing in
rushing in
like falling
There is no returning to that emptiness,
loneliness
The dream that lives inside of me
won't fade away, it's wide awake
Falling Awake
From a walking sleep
And all that remains
Is the dying memory
And now I can dive for
these dreams I make
Like I am Falling
I am falling awake
#310 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
текстоуслышка

Until My Last Breath

Can not cry it loud enough
I’m giving up this ghost (?)
How can I still justified
When you deny my voice

In this nothing I’m not allowed
I just follow alone
Words as weapons without a sound
Echoes dying unborn


Until my last breath
You’ll never know
Until you feel the silence
When I am gone

Now it’s vanishing
Everything
What we might have been
Only now your prays call my name
But You won’t you see again


Who can change this memory?
Inside it needs to burn
Worship by the enemy
The guilty take their turns
Watching as it’s disappearing
Shadows all that remain
Wishes slowly crossing over
In this parade of pain


Until my last breath
You’ll never know
Until you feel the silence
When I am gone

Now it’s vanishing
Everything
What we might have been
Only now your prays call my name
But You won’t you see again
#311 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
Nihil писал(а):
Overcome oblivion

йеее Very Happy я знала, что не ослышалась. Прально, остался всего один шаг, Тарья, - и ты в прекрасном царстве Шигората. Фредди
#312 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
Anteroom of Death (услышки)

Come with me another day
Do you mess with me
I don't care what you say
'Coz you're lovely ?
Come and play another game
Welcome to the anteroom of death

Hide your conspiracy, so
Who's got the keys and who has not?
Sell your fortune to me, 'coz
I can still read behind all that
Burn your fingers, trade a dream
Watch the clock as it's ticking

Riding into the dark
And touching the scorns of tainted heart
If you're searching land to the sea
Honesty is all we need take a bow finally

Watch the clock 'coz it's ticking tick tick tock
Watch the clock..
#313 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
Nihil, прямо песенка Джигсоу Laughing
Тарья Пилу пересмотрела XDD
#314 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
ANTEROOM OF DEATH:
-----------------------------

Two-faced drama rebellion,
Are you the Joker, King or Queen?
Place your cards are they're coming,
Came to win, lost everything

Don't bring writers
Pull the strings
Pull them tighter
Let them in

-------
Come and play another day
Throw your mask away
I don't care what you say
'Cause your lovely words decay
Come and play another day
Welcome to the anteroom of death
-------

Hide your conspiracies, so
Who's got the keys and who has not?
Sell your fortune to me, 'cause
I can still read behind all that

Burn your fingers
Trade a dream
Watch the clock as it's ticking


Riding into the dark
And touching these thorns of tainted hearts
If you're searching land to the sea
Honesty is all we'll need
Take a bow finally


Watch the clock 'cause it's ticking and ticking ticking tock
Watch the clock 'cause it's ticking and ticking ticking tock
Are you joker, king or queen?
To face drama rebellion
Are you joker, king or queen?
Came to win
Are you joker, king or queen?
Came to win
Lost everything
Come and Play (come and play)
Another day (another day)
I don't care what you say
Because your lovely words decay
Come on and play another day
Throw your mask away
.....
Welcome to the Anteroom of Death

Don't bring writers
Pull the strings
Pull them tighter
Let them in
Burn your fingers
Trade a dream
Come on in, come on in, come on in, come on in .....
#315 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
ОФФ ТЕКСТЫ

The Archive of Lost Dreams

Far from the light to reach beneath a veil of mist
Countless stories were left to rest in peace
Darkened and calm
The grave uncared
Once a haven filled with hope
The archive of lost dreams
We send our inner fears for the ocean to score
Waiting it takes them all away from the shore
Deepest beliefs from billions of souls
Longing for our wishes to find a way back home
Aah...Naiad
The last one in the unknown
The keeper of our written dreams
Aah...Promises
None of them were left behind
She blessed them with her kiss
See.
Hear and feel
The miracle of life
Believe the signs and trust you'll stay alive
Descend to find the depth of your heart
Mysterious Naiad
Now the circle's closed forever
Aah...Naiad
The archive is gone
We are on our own

Rivers of Lust

Violent hands come at midnight
Hold me down
I can't make a sound
In their arms
Still unwanted
Crave the child
Be forever wiled

Stranger, danger
Release me

Mercy's hiding
It let me go
Hurts to know
Mercy's watching
Watching me drowning
In rivers of lust

Morning sun
Break the shelter
Turn back time
Wash away my crime

Betrayer, slayer
Release me

Mercy's hiding
It let me go
Hurts to know
Mercy's watching
Watching me drowning
In rivers of lust

Found at noon
Clutching still the stone

Little Lies

Take my faith with an open hand and warm embrace
My confidant
Use my words
Take the good away and leave the worst to sell me out

Little lies
Little lies
Making up tragedies
Nothing is as it seems
Who cares what is real
Little lies
Little lies
Only to entertain
The message is the same for those who believe

Feed the flames
Empty wishes with no room to blame
My sacrifice
Deep inside
There is nothing left to stand behind
But

Little lies
Little lies
Making up tragedies
Nothing is as it seems
Who cares what is real
Little lies
Little lies
Only to entertain
The message is the same for those who believe

Little Lies
Little lies
Nothing is what it seems

Dark Star

Burning out in the distance you're falling
Starting to fade
Light is condemned to be tied down by gravity close to the end
Do you still remember?
Before the weight that pulled you under
Dared you to rise

Where are you now?
Are you proud of the life you wasted?
Wearing the crown of illusion you created
You'll never know what it feels like to shine
You're the master in your own mind
But a slave to all
You are a dark star

Empty
Is never enough
You keep clawing for what you can't reach
Smothering space filled without any grace and I can't breathe
Nothing lasts forever
Even the stars will loose their luster returning to dust

Where are you now?
Are you proud of the life you wasted?
Wearing the crown of illusion you created
You'll never know what it feels like to shine
You're the master in your own mind
But a slave to all
You are a dark star

Underneath

Even in my darkest times
Overcome with worry
Find the comfort in the storm
No reason to be sorry
Look inside for a place to hide
All around the faithless wait full of expectations
They will never see the beauty in the imperfections
The more I show
The less they know

Out of reach
Underneath
Learned to breath
Underneath
Something inside of me
Invisible turning the fragile
Unbreakable
But they cannot take away
They cannot take away
What I believe
You cannot take away
Cannot take away
What's underneath

Every little cut runs deep
Masked in my tomorrow
Bringing wisdom that I need for all the time I borrow
My other side is left behind

Out of reach
Underneath
Learned to breath
Underneath
Something inside of me
Invisible turning the fragile
Unbreakable
But they cannot take away
They cannot take away
What I believe
You cannot take away
Cannot take away
What's underneath

In For a Kill

Where do you go from here?
It's dragging you under
Nothing could be more clear
When you are the hunter
Is that a dream to die for?
A prize

You keep it
Out of the light
Nothing can shine
Left in the dark
Far from their eyes
Under black water
There is no halo
Only the hunger
And you're in for a kill

You and your twisted minds
It's making us shiver
How can we be so blind
The fear you deliver
It's all a grand illusion
A trick

You keep it
Out of the light
Nothing can shine
Left in the dark
Far from their eyes
Under black water
There is no halo
Only the hunger
And you're in for a kill

Anteroom of Death
Two faced drama rebellion
Are you the Joker, King or Queen?
Place your cards as they're coming
Came to win
Lost everything
Gambling rider pull the strings
Pull them tighter

Let them in
Come and play another day
Throw your mask away
I don't care what you say
Cause your lovely words decay
Come and play another day
Welcome to the anteroom of death

Hide your conspiracies so
Who's got the keys
And who has not?
Sell your fortune to me
Cause I can still read behind all that
Burn your fingers
Trade a dream
Watch the clock as it's ticking

Come and play another day
Throw your mask away
I don't care what you say
Cause your lovely words decay
Come and play another day
Welcome to the anteroom of death

Blinded in the dark
I'm touching the scars of tainted hearts
If you're searching
Learn to see
Honesty is all you need
Take a bow
Finally

Come and play another day
Throw your mask away
I don't care what you say
Cause your lovely words decay
Come and play another day
Welcome to the anteroom of death

Mountains of silence

Fly as high
As you can
Nobody below
Nobody is behind
It always begins
when you are alone
Love, fear,
feel and find yourself
in loneliness
yours and no one else
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We Are

How cold is the heart
My world is on fire
How deep is the mark
When you leave and your dream turn to water
I let myself feel
I'm wishing for something real

We are
We are
Chasing a shadow
We are
We are
Lost in the shame
You try to hide only to reach out
It's too late

With a smile you move on
Every fear left unspoken
There was hope
Now it's gone
So believe there is love in the open
You just have to let go and turn into something real

We are
We are
Chasing a shadow
We are
We are
Lost in the shame
You try to hide only to reach out
It's too late

Break the shade
See your hate
Black flames
No names
Who are you?
Janette said.

We are
We are
Chasing a shadow
We are
We are
Lost in the shame
You try to hide only to reach out
It's too late

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Until My Last Breath (от текстоуслышки все-таки отличается, конец припева)

Cannot cry it loud enough
I'm giving up this ghost
How can I still justify
When you deny my voice
In this nothing I am not allowed
I just follow alone
Words as weapons without a sound
Echoes dying unborn

Until my last breath
You'll never know
Until you feel the silence
When I am gone
Now is vanishing
Everything
What we might have been
Only now you praise
Call my name that you won't see again


Who can change this memory
Inside it needs to burn
Worship by the enemy
The guilty take their turns
Watching as it's disappearing
Shadows all that remain
Wishes slowly crossing over
In this parade of pain

Until my last breath
You'll never know
Until you feel the silence
When I am gone
Now is vanishing
Everything
What we might have been
Only now you praise
Call my name that you won't see again
#317 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
Kettu писал(а):
Who are you?
Janette said.


чо, простите??? Confused
#318 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
Йося_Смит писал(а):
Kettu писал(а):
Who are you?
Janette said.


чо, простите??? Confused


это не ко мне, это сюда:
http://www.tarjaturunen.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=607378#607378

но я про Джанетт не услышала там ничего оО

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Либо Оцелот опечаталась, либо это троллинг со стороны Тарьи. Confused
#319 Ссылка на пост Добавлено:
Оффтоп:

Цитата:
Who are you?
Janette said.

Kettu писал(а):
Либо Оцелот опечаталась, либо это троллинг со стороны Тарьи.

Может там в оригинале было Anette? =D
А че, подходит )
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